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Adam Jacobson's avatar

First, can you recommend a Beowulf translation? (The Bear sounds terrific but my list of language projects is too long).

Second, it's fascinating what folks pick up from the Bible. In Jewish tradition, Og King of Bashan survived the flood. Perkei diRabbi Eliezer (the chapters of Rabbi Eliezer, 28) relates:

"And Noah only was left, and they that were with him in the ark" (Genesis 7:23.), except Og, king of Bashan, who sat down on a piece of wood under the gutter of the ark. He swore to Noah and to his sons that he would be their servant forever. What did Noah do? He bored an aperture in the ark, and he put (through it) his food daily for him, and he also was left, as it is said, "For only Og, king of Bashan, remained of the remnant of the giants" (Deut. 3:11).

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Wayne's avatar

It's so tempting to translate that "eotenas ond ylfe ond orcnēas" with Tolkien's "middle-earth races" now a-day. Although, I had assumed the Eotenas would be what he used for Ents -- for no good reason really. Probably best to avoid and just give it a nod like you did. I think it's kind of cool though that Beowulf gave us our modern word "orc", though.

I wasn't aware of that blood drinking prohibition, but yeah, that would make Grendel all the more horrifying.

Another thought I had about the whole Flood thing, is that "monsters" like Grendel and his mother, (and their ancestors presumably), being water dwelling, had a loop hole to escape being destroyed by the flood stream. Of course, that wouldn't explain the Dragon.

On a totally unrelated note, it seems that the Anglo Saxons must have thought that 30 was an impressive but still believable quantity. I recall Beowulf was said (I think by Hrothgar) to have the strength of 30 people, that Grendel seized 30 thanes (on his first raid on Heorot), that Beowulf escaped the Frisians on Hygelac's ill-fated raid against them by swimming away with 30 mail shirts, and I think there's a couple of more references I saw, but they might not be all in Beowulf.

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