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Thanks, Colin!

Your word "ownership" reminds me of something I've seen among flash card enthusiasts. Experienced language learners who use flash cards for learning languages just about always (in my experience) swear by handwritten cards, though they all have a different stated reason for it. (This is less true of medical students, who love their Anki decks.) I'm not saying that any of those reasons are wrong. It's probably very true that it's good to engage your muscles in learning a language, and that it's great to be able to easily use various colors and sorting methods. But it seems to me also that when you hold a flashcard in your hand that you yourself made, and see a word in your own handwriting, you have tangible proof that at least for a moment you knew it. The card confirms your ownership of the word.

Having said some nice things about flashcards, though, I also want to spotlight what you said here: "Most novice language learners ... would do much better starting off with a programme of listening to and reading easy material in the language for six months, and only then progressing to the apps, classes, and grammar books." Taking several months to do only comprehensible input was my 2025 strategy for Old English, and I'd vouch for it, even as I admit that it built up a surprising appetite for grammar. As I said to our mutual friend Logan, "Grammar is more fun like this than it is in the world of grammar/translation — it's more like being a natural historian trying to determine which squishy tide-pool creature you're looking at, and less like you're arming yourself with grammar tables in preparation for doing battle with the lines."

In fact, I've been recognizing many parallels between learning language and learning the natural history of a place, not least of which is that there's a surprising amount to be gained by just getting out there and looking around. Part of the natural-history game is to let your attention become attuned. Wandering around looking at things doesn't have the trappings of rigor, but one day you realize you know an awful lot that you didn't even notice yourself learning.

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Thanks for another great article. A few thoughts:

Multiple things are necessary for learning a language to a high level. Right now "Comprehensible Input" is the "one neat trick" of language learning on line. somewhat like that special berry that if you eat two cups a day you'll lose fat and gain muscle. Sure, it helps a lot. However, at some point you need to do more than consume content to progress. There is no one neat trick. I'm currently at that step with Latin. I still consume a lot of content. But when I found that I wasn't progressing, I spent a month translating some Livy into English every day. I've seen my ability to read classical Latin improve noticeably. YMMV.

Another thing which you don't talk about (maybe it's obvious) but people have very different skills with language acquisition. So, while we can agree that memorizing declensions and conjugations as an initial focus isn't helpful, what comes next varies. And knowing the grammar helps certain folks (like me).

I've learned two languages to conversational fluency - Hebrew and French. (I maintain my Hebrew, my French knowledge is primarily passive right now). In both scenarios, I had friends who had much better "ears" for the language -- they sounded native. When it came to knowing the subjunctive in French or parsing a piece of Talmud, I really excelled. I find grammar to be cool. I have learned to speak and develop an accent that's not obviously American. When I speak the language, folks don't switch into English. It was a much longer process.

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